Thursday, December 13, 2012

More on selling water for Chaparral's golf course

[Gazette Blog Editor's note: Since the editorial referenced below has slipped off the front page, we thought this recent comment might be missed and therefore are giving it prominent placement.  It's unfair, however, to blame it all on Payson Councilor Ed Blair.  He just happens to be the best of the lot and the one we hope will raise hell - pardon the expression, Ed - about this matter.  All Payson councilors need to be made aware of how environmentally-conscious Rim Country residents feel about selling potable Cragin Reservoir water to Chaparral Pines for 49 years to water its golf course.  To read the original editorial, click the WATER tab on the right.]

Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "The 4-year college scam":

"(Payson Mayor Kenny) Evans said he has been in talks with Steve Loy, part owner of the Chaparral Pines golf club, and Crescent Resources to help solve their water problems as well as bring water to the proposed university’s property.

Loy and those groups will pay “sufficiently” to have a pipeline built from Tyler Parkway down to the university’s property and over to Chaparral Pines.

Payson has agreed to provide a share of Cragin water to the golf course at cost for at least 49 years, he said. Evans said the three-party contract, with the town, SLE and golf club, could be stitched up by the end of the year."


Based upon the article and (Payson Town Councilor Ed) Blair’s inept knowledge of the article, it proves that councilman Ed Blair is delusional. Maybe he is losing it? 

[And by the way, does Salt River Project know about this proposed deal?  It surely can't be what SRP had in mind when they granted a share of Cragin water to Payson.]


Anonymous said...

Hi, your delusional councilor here:
Want to know the full public story of the water to Chap. Pines, the university, American Gulch and water percolating through the grass and water streams? then go to the video of tonight's Dec 13 council meeting.(

There's going to be a big difference between potable water (WHICH WILL NOT TO GOLF COURSES) and raw (not going through but around the treatment plant in Mesa Del) Town doesn't pay for the pipe, but gets to sell it. Ed

Anonymous said...

Sorry, Mr. Councilor, but that's Evans-speak. Bypassing the treatment plant does not make the water any less potable (or you any less culpable). If you and your council vote for this, you are voting to use (potentially) potable water on an underused golf course for 49 years, well into the timeframe when the West will be desperate for water. It's just plain dumb, shortsighted and probably greedy.

Anonymous said...

The conditional use permit #TUP12-008 WAS issued to MB Fine Homes ( Robert Fredrick Meyer ) at 1011 S. Goodfellow Rd, Payson, AZ 85541 on November 28, 2012, signed by Doni Wilbanks, on 11/28/2012. Doni is a Town of Payson Planning Technician.

We (wife and I) decided to look in on this matter and so we went down to the area and asked some of the neighbors what was going on. We were given the actual letter and envelope that the notice letter was sent in. We read the notice (sent by the Town of Payson that was sent out to all neighbors near the illegal “Saw Mill” at 1011 S. Goodfellow Rd, Payson, AZ. That letter was dated November 7, 2012.

The letter said all comments from the neighbors must be received by Payson community development planning and zoning within 10 days of the date of this letter which made the response date Saturday 17, 2012.

The envelope that held the Payson community development planning and zoning notice letter was IS DATED BY THE POST OFFICE November 14, 2012.

The neighbors didn’t receive that notice till “FRIDAY” November 16, 2012.
That left no time for the people affected to respond to the Payson planning and zoning community development department, to tell them they did not want a “Saw Mill” in their neighborhood and that the land at 1011 S. Goodfellow was not zoned for a “Saw Mill”

Just by the dates on the letter and post office date on envelope shows how incompetent the current administration is and that they could care less about the health of the children at the pre school 12 feet away from Mr. Robert Fredrick Meyer’s illegally operating “SAW MILL” at 1011 S. Goodfellow Rd. Payson, Arizona 85541

It looks as though mayor Kenny evans administration was going to give the conditional use permit anyway regardless of what the “little people” wanted. It appears as though the letter was just a formality.

At the very least this IS selective enforcement.

The guy in Wheaton Ill can “smell” the stench from the crap that is going on here in Payson even as far away as Wheaton Ill.

The article that Jim started this post on was nothing more than a ploy by the Roundup (for evans and the good ol’ boy realtors and developers) to draw out those who disagree (Dissidents') with what they want to do.

(A dissident, broadly defined, is a person who actively challenges an established doctrine, policy, or institution)

So that the mayor and his puppeteers would know who to demonize, intimidate and strong arm.

How can Payson be blessed by God when the rulers do such evil in the sight of God?

At church a few weeks ago the pastor said that in the “latter days” people would call evil good, and call good evil and they will have changed sides (from good to evil) and not even know it.

We all would like to see jobs and prosperity in Payson, but not at the expense of the “Little People”.

What kind of deal is selling the Country Club 49 years of water (at cost)?

The people of Payson have paid for everything we have now concerning WATER even before evans moved here, or the Country Club Golf course Chaparral Pines even existed.

If anyone should get a break in water prices it us that have lived here for 30 plus years!

If the Country Club Golf Course wants to buy water and there is enough to sell it to them… then make THEM pay for all the piping to their property line and also charge them an impact fee in the amount it will takes to run a line to the proposed ASU extension college.

That’s the deal that should be made with the big $$$ money Chaparral Pines Country Club.