EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW WITH ACCUSED
KILLER'S WIFE REVEALS ANOTHER
SIDE TO WHAT YOU'VE BEEN TOLD
(Gazette Blog Editor Jim Keyworth interviewed Mike Voden’s wife Pat
Rollins on Saturday, Nov. 30. Voden is
accused of shooting and killing Randy Burnett during an altercation in his
yard. The questions and her complete answers
are printed below with only minor editing.
If any statements prove to be incorrect, the Blog will gladly print a
retraction.)
JK: So what happened?
PR: It was just
before 7 in the morning and you know my big green van – I park it right outside
of where my back door is. So if you’re
in the house in the next yard, you can not see through the green van. What took place was behind that green
van. I’m mentioning that because people
are telling me the widow said she saw everything and all kinds of stuff that
cannot possibly be true because there’s no way she could see it.
He came through our
private gate and brought at least one dog with him (although it’s not any dog’s
fault). He came up to the rear of the
green van. He couldn’t have seen Mike at
that point. And then he came around and
saw Mike who was near the side door.
He’s a huge guy by
the way. I want to emphasize that Mike
is 5’ 6”. He has a leg that doesn’t work
right, screwed up by a local doctor, confirmed by a specialist in the
Valley. Worst knee job they ever
saw. So he can’t move very fast. Mike has a heart condition too. So here’s this huge guy – huge – he’s well
over 6’, heavy girth, everything. Came
running at him with his fists raised and a look of fury on his face, making it
clear he’s going to beat the shit out of Mike.
That’s what happened.
JK: Was there
anything between them before?
PR: The only thing
that I’m aware of is – they’d only spent one night there, so this was the
morning after that first night. But
during that (first) day, the guy opened the gate and had his dogs roam around the
garden and Mike had told him they dig up plants and we can’t have dogs in the
yard. That’s the only thing I know.
But anyway, he
came. Mike waited until the last
possible minute – you know, either get the shit beat out of him, and his only
defense – he carries. He has a permit to
carry. He waited until the guy was
practically on top of him. Now people
say, "Why didn’t he go in the kitchen?" He
can’t run. Number two, if he comes in the
side door he puts both of us at risk – me too.
So he determined that wasn’t a good plan. He just hoped the guy would stop and come to
his senses and go back, but he didn’t.
So that’s why Mike shot him.
JK: When did the 911
call take place?
PR: It probably took
place around 7.
JK: Did he shoot him
while he was talking to 911?
PR: I don’t know. But
Mike, not ever having shot anyone before, went into shock. So they had to haul him by ambulance to the
hospital where they had to work for hours to get his heart functioning again. They finally did and the next morning at 10
they let him call me. He said, “They’re
moving me. They managed to settle my
heart down.” He didn’t know where. A friend tried to find out where. There were all kinds of obstructions but he
finally found him in the Globe jail.
JK: So they didn’t
keep you posted?
PR: Nothing. I assumed they would tell me and they didn’t.
JK: So where were you
when all of this was going on out in the yard?
PR: In bed.
JK: Were you aware
that anything was happening?
PR: Mike pounded on
the window – my bedroom window. I said, “What
the heck is going on,” and I put my head up and looked through the slats and
saw a dog. But that’s all I could see.
JK: Did you hear the gunshots?
PR: No.
JK: How many times
was the guy shot?
PR: I think three.
JK: Do you know where
he was shot?
PR: Probably in his
gut or in that region, but don’t hold me to it.
I don’t want to do what the other person (the widow) has done.
JK: What has the
other person said? I don’t read the Roundup either.
PR: She’s made up all
kinds of things. That he wasn’t really
coming to harm Mike. That his hands were
up in prayer. That’s one of the things I’ve
been told. And she said she could see
the whole thing. No way. It all occurred behind my huge green
van. So there’s no way she could’ve seen
it.
JK: So that will come
out in court I would imagine?
PR: That will come
out in court, and we’re having a hearing on Thursday, Dec. 12 at 1 p.m. (in
Payson). The attorneys say get as many friends and positive people there as
possible. Come early to the courthouse
to get in. It will help him to have
people supporting him there. We want as
many people as we can to come out and support him.
JK: Have you seen him
at all?
PR: Yes, I go once a
week. Somebody drives me to Globe.
JK: What’s Mike tell
you when you go see him? What’s his
state of mind?
PR: Initially, he was
just totally confused. He can’t understand
why it happened. He was a member of the
CERT team so he backed up the police all the time – Community Emergency
whatever it is. On Halloween he was
helping out on Main Street. I think he
was directing traffic. He’s been doing
it for a long time.
But Jim, there is
something not right going on. It makes no sense why they decided to just
not look at the facts and throw the book at him. There has to be something behind it. I don’t know for positive what it is, but
people are coming forward with other information for the first time. I’m thinking, gee, this is bigger than I
am.
The other thing is –
and Mike just wrote this (he’s writing me letters) – there was a gal here and
she worked for Mike for awhile. She was
from Canada and she was a terrific worker.
But she was an illegal immigrant, and Mike let Don know he was kind of
looking into it. I mean, he’s scraping his
brains to try to figure out why he’s in this situation.
JK: Because it should
have been clear that it’s self defense?
PR: Absolutely. The guy came through our private gate onto
our property – all the way over to our house.
It’s just bizarre.
JK: And he was
physically threatening Mike when it happened?
PR: The difference in
the size of them too. Mike wouldn’t have
had a prayer if that guy started punching him.
JK: Who is
representing Mike?
PR: I don’t have any
money. I’m living on retirement. My father-in-law has gotten involved. He’s 93 and he told me he wanted to hire
another attorney. I hired who I could
get on a weekend. Michael Kilsky. And he’s done OK.
JK: Is he a Payson
lawyer?
PR: Oh, you don’t get
a Payson lawyer unless you want to get convicted. No, he’s from Tempe.
JK: So you’ve hired a
second attorney?
PR: Michael Bernays. He’s also from Tempe. My father-in-law hired him. Mike’s dad has taken over and he wanted his
own attorney. Mike has had one meeting
with him. I was going to have to take
out a second mortgage on the house, but Mike’s dad said, “Don’t you do
that. I’m handling all the expenses.”
(Bernays) said he might be
able to get 3-6 people to speak at the (Thursday, Dec. 12) hearing.
I have a list of 14 who’ve said they’re willing to testify to Mike’s character,
and the first person to call and say he wants to be on the list is (former Star
Valley mayor and Rim Country Gazette publisher) Bill Rappaport. So he’s the most well known, but I have more
than enough people.
JK: I know Mike well
enough to say that I was stunned. I know he wouldn’t do something without being
really endangered.
PR: You got that
right. All he does is volunteer work. Both of us spend hours doing volunteer
work. It’s just incredible.
JK: And what about
the media coverage?
PR: Here’s what I
think about (Roundup Editor) Pete (Aleshire).
Pete’s an excellent writer, but he’s not a good reporter. And that requires another, totally different
skill set – and some integrity.
JK: So they’re kind
of convicting Mike?
PR: Well I’m not
reading it. I absolutely refuse. Somebody said, “You know the terrible things
they put in the Roundup.” I said, “I don’t want to know, because I need
to remain positive and uplifted and that’s not going to do it.” So I don’t read them, but people say, “You
know, they lied about this. They lied
about that.”
JK: What do you want
people to know?
PR: I want people to
know that Mike was in fear for his own life and for my safety too. This guy was huge and Mike’s a small
man. He’s small and now he’s frail. He’s 5’6” and maybe 145 pounds.
JK: So what can
people do besides coming to the hearing?
PR: That’s the first
and most important thing they can do – come up to the courthouse and show their
support because this has been a big miscarriage of justice. He should have been out on bail way
before now.
JK: And what did they
set the bail at?
PR: One million
dollars.
JK: How old is Mike?
PR: I’m 75 and Mike
is 72. We’ve been married for over 40
years. Mike’s a veteran, an ex-Marine.
JK: He’s not really a
gun guy? He keeps them for self defense?
PR: He’s a Democrat
who believes in the Second Amendment.
JK: You’ve never seen
Mike in a fight with anybody in 40 years of marriage?
PR: Never, and Jim,
when Robert Lantry got fired by PostNet, Mike brought his trailer to put Robert’s (printing)
equipment in. Mike was just standing
there waiting when the owner of PostNet told his big son who’s like twice the
size of Mike to go after Mike physically.
So he did and rushed toward him and tried to knock him over. Mike didn’t lose his footing, but he borrowed
a phone and called the police. He didn’t
pull his gun because he didn’t feel his life was threatened.
JK: He had his gun
and he didn’t pull it?
PR: That’s right.